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Hommes Thobbes's avatar

Good piece. I've bothered to read Anderson's book (which is actually quite eccentric in many ways). As you've noted, for Anderson a national consciousness, that presupposes nationalism, is enabled by a cultural flattening of time/identity. When he first published Imagined Communities in 1983, there would've only been a handful of widely consumed broadcast channels. This would appear to be a vindication of his thesis about mass media no doubt. I dont think there had been radical change by the final edition (2006) either - facebook only started to take off in that year.

I've often wondered where his thesis sits now national communities have splintered into a gazillion different information ecosystems. It most certainly suggests there is something more fundamental about national identity than mass media.

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The arguments often change when it comes to Ukraine. Then it suddenly becomes imperative to recognize the inherently distinct Ukrainian ethnicity, and stand up against the Russian mudding of waters.

I don't want to focus on whether Ukraine "deserves" to be it's own nation and where we draw the line, are Croats just Catholic Serbs who belonged to the Habsburg empire, whether Slovaks are just Czechs who belonged to Hungary instead of Bohemia etc. I don't care about this here. I just want to note that suddenly in the case of Ukraine, the upper normie is suspiciously nationalistic all of a sudden.

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