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Sam Bowman's avatar

Great article. I had exactly the same thought as you on the train across rural China - so much agricultural work that looked backbreaking. I was also struck by just how many biomes China has that are relatively densely packed. I thought Macau was a total dump, like what I imagine North Korea to be plus some big casinos.

The thing that stood out to me about the police state was when a bus I was on going through the countryside in Yunnan was pulled over and everyone except us was brought out and briefly interrogated by the police. Unsure if there was genuinely a manhunt on (in which case fair enough) or if this was routine police harassment in this part of the country.

Will Solfiac's avatar

Yeah the villages really did look premodern (aside from the buildings), with very small plots of land right next to the houses.

Esoteric Ealdorman's avatar

Great article. I am actually considering a visit to China with my dad at some point. He is a massive Sinophile. I think I would lean to going more western and more rural though. I loved the idea that the CCP are powerless against smart phone slop.

Will Solfiac's avatar

Yeah you should definitely go. I'd love to visit a more rural area (bet they still have smartphone slop though)

Esoteric Ealdorman's avatar

If only we had a supreme leader who would liberate us by turning off the internet

ouroborosalbatross's avatar

I have been on clinical bullet trains in Japan where to so much as cough seems an ancient taboo, vs the polar opposite in India where you travel cheek to jowl, swap snacks, and your little compartment becomes family by the end of the journey. Where does China lie on this railway spectrum? Awesome article

Will Solfiac's avatar

Thank you. Honestly the main impression was just people looking at their phones and no taboo against noise pollution. Didn't seem like people really interacted with strangers much, but as I barely speak Chinese I couldn't tell for sure.

Grey Squirrel's avatar

That's just 3rd world culture. I'm Chinese born in America and my parents constantly blast and scroll social media in public and on public transit.

The majority of people in my neighborhood (35% black, 60% Latino iirc and 75% foreign born, average HHI around 20k) in NYC scroll and blast social media in public and on public transit as well as make very loud phone calls, watch full on movies etc.

Fred Sculthorp's avatar

Sounds strangely depressing

Will Solfiac's avatar

I was worried I'd give that impression. It was actually a lot of fun, but it's not so interesting to write about walking through a lovely park and having coffee.

Fred Sculthorp's avatar

I went in 2012 and couldn't wait to leave after two weeks.

Will Solfiac's avatar

You do start to crave a McDonalds

Barekicks's avatar

How do the big cities compare to, say, Dubai? I was in Dubai for 3 days and felt it was enough. There was a soulless feel to it, even though the architecture is impressive.

Does China have more soul, for lack of a better word?

Will Solfiac's avatar

I guess they feel a bit soulless but then, I am not Chinese. I imagine to Chinese people they feel proud of what they have achieved in their country, which gives them some soul. Whereas Dubai for most is just an economic zone.

gregvp's avatar

This is a blast from the past. Very 2019.

Will Solfiac's avatar

What's no longer valid? Some of these things would have been present in 2019, but the dominance of home grown EVs, and the ubiquitous smartphone loudspeaker slop are likely to be significantly different.